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LG has added to their home laser projector lineup with the announcement of the CineBeam HU810P, a 4K UHD single-chip DLP laser projector. Like the company's HU85LA ultra short throw projector, the HU810P uses multiple lasers for better color, but while the HU85LA has three, the HU810P utilizes a red/blue dual-laser system to achieve 97 percent of the P3 color space while generating 2,700 ANSI lumens of brightness. The light source has a lifespan of up to 20,000 hours in High Brightness or 30,000 hours in Economic mode. The HU810P is able to project a 300-inch diagonal image and includes a 1.6x manual zoom. The lens shift can go up to 55 degrees vertical and 22 degrees horizontal.
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To try and ensure the best viewing experience under different room conditions, LG has included Adaptive Picture Pro technology. This includes bright room and dark room iris modes to automatically adjust the picture dependent on the amount of light in your viewing room. Adaptive Contrast optimizes the contrast ratio from frame to frame. Both HDR10 and HLG are supported and use LG's dynamic tone mapping feature as introduced in the HU85LA.
The HU810P comes equipped with an HDMI 2.1 (with eARC) and two HDMI 2.0 ports. A pair of 5-watt utility speakers are on board, but the projector features wireless audio connectivity with Bluetooth and WiSA (Wireless Speakers and Audio), the latter certification allows for up to eight channels of 24-bit, 96kHz audio to be transmitted to WiSA speakers at low latency. LG's newest webOS 5.0 smart TV interface and streaming platform is also on board for access to all major streaming services, and there's also support for AirPlay2 and a wired optical audio connection.
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Specifics on pricing and availability were not released, but the HU810P is expected to reach market sometime this fall.
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From what I have seen, this and the Viewsonic X100 are some of the only HDMI 2.1 projectors announced this year. I am curious to see how they perform. I am looking for a 2-3 year upgrade to my Panasonic AE7000 until Epson makes a true 4K 3LCD. I at least want to see several true 4Ks competing against each other before moving up. I also want to see if there is any impact with HDMI 2.1.
Lowell, the X100-4K is spec'd as having HDMI 2.0 connectors, not HDMI 2.1, which makes this LG the only projector I've seen touting this feature. This shouldn't be surprising; as a leading flatpanel manufacturer LG is active in this area with other products and would be among the first in line to get the new 2.1 chipset, while smaller projector makers will be a bit behind in the cycle. Hopefully new models appearing in 2021 will be fully up to date. In any event, gamers will likely be the first consumers to take any kind of advantage of 2.1 when the new compatible consoles and games come out.
What does put the X100 and HU810P in a somewhat similar class is that both are home theater projectors with solid state, long-life light sources. At $1,700 the X100 is an affordable RGBB LED projector while this LG is a laser model. The X100 will be the less expensive by far, and it's chief limitation will be overall brigthness -- which at 1200 ANSI and 2,900 LED lumens, may be more than enough for screens that aren't too large in a dark environment. We are also interested to see what kind of contrast/black level it can manage. The HU810P is by far the brighter projector and will be more suitable for a mix of dark and bright room viewing. We expect to have reviews of both projectors up before year end.
What does put the X100 and HU810P in a somewhat similar class is that both are home theater projectors with solid state, long-life light sources. At $1,700 the X100 is an affordable RGBB LED projector while this LG is a laser model. The X100 will be the less expensive by far, and it's chief limitation will be overall brigthness -- which at 1200 ANSI and 2,900 LED lumens, may be more than enough for screens that aren't too large in a dark environment. We are also interested to see what kind of contrast/black level it can manage. The HU810P is by far the brighter projector and will be more suitable for a mix of dark and bright room viewing. We expect to have reviews of both projectors up before year end.
My mistake on the X100, I thought I read that somewhere. The upgrade bug has me right now and I am looking for a cheap upgrade. If Sony would have went HDMI 2.1 or some upgrade on the 295, I might have just moved up. I know JVCs are considered the king, but every time I view them side by side I like the motion of the Sony. Now I am looking for a $2K-$3K temp. My only problem is every time I go out looking at projectors and come home and look at my Panasonic, I just say, can it get much better? Also thought about the Epson 5050. I do game so I need good gaming lag.
Lowell, you won't get much lower input lag in a serious home theater projector with the kind of image quality and decent blacks you're talking about than the Epson 5050, which comes in between 22 and 29 ms depending on signal type and the color mode/preset. Everything else is higher, often much higher. You can go down in contrast/image quality to a dedicated gaming projector and get it down to 8 to 16 ms in a DLP model. Perhaps it's worth waiting to see how this new LG fares on that count as well as image quality if HDMI 2.1 is important to you.
This one feels like it checks all the boxes for me. I really want to know the price. HU85LA is $6k. With this being a long throw and one less laser, any hope it will compete with 5050UB on price?
Any idea if the lens shift is motorized? My guess is no..
This would technically work for my CIH setup since it has a 1.6x zoom lens, but I would be stuck still having to stand on top of a chair to make adjustments when switching ratios. Of all the projectors that would work, such as the JVC LX-NZ3, BenQ HT9060, and this one, they all have sufficient lens shift and zoom, but are all manual. This leaves me with the 6050UB or NX5 as my only viable options since both have lens memory. But they are both lamp based..
Come on Epson, make a LS11000, or put a laser in the 5060/6060..
This would technically work for my CIH setup since it has a 1.6x zoom lens, but I would be stuck still having to stand on top of a chair to make adjustments when switching ratios. Of all the projectors that would work, such as the JVC LX-NZ3, BenQ HT9060, and this one, they all have sufficient lens shift and zoom, but are all manual. This leaves me with the 6050UB or NX5 as my only viable options since both have lens memory. But they are both lamp based..
Come on Epson, make a LS11000, or put a laser in the 5060/6060..
Daniel, I can't find anything in the LG materials or press release to suggest either way. There are a couple of lens adjustment controls on one of the side panels to shift the image left/right or up/down, but it's not clear if these are buttons for motorized or mechanical movements. We'll know more soon.
I have been eyeballing the 5050 since it came out. I just can't see it being anything but incrementally better than my Panasonic AE7000U. I guess I may have to break down and try it out. I not sure how much different the pixel shifting will be than the Panasonic Smooth Screen Technology. I know the contrast will be better, but I have a completely dark room and my blacks seem pretty black. I don't think TI has improved the black levels on their DLP chips in a long time, or at least I haven't found any info on the web. I thought with DLP the mirror was either on or off and with laser, I would think the laser DLPs would be better, but all reviews say otherwise.
Rob Sabin, Editor Posted Sep 25, 2020 10:15 AM PST
Compliance with UHD HDR content with excellent HDR tone-mapping, and very good late-gen pixel-shifting and lens, along with the UB technology for contrast/black improvement vs plain old LCD, should make for a significant upgrade.
Any prediction on when Epson will introduce next generation of the 5050UB?
Rob Sabin, Editor Posted Sep 25, 2020 11:35 AM PST
Eric, I would not expect it anytime soon; the product is too new.
Wishing for HDMI 2.1 in a UST Laser light source or LED Projector. Heard any rumors to an update to the HU85LA?
Rob Sabin, Editor Posted Sep 26, 2020 10:38 AM PST
No, but we don't have specs yet on Samsung's upcoming USTs, which are late 2020 models also coming from a major TV maker with access to HDMI 2.1 chips.
Just saw a post saying the Samsung 9T/7T are $6500/$3500. That fits right in with the LG and Optoma UST u it’s.
I have to respond to Lowell, since I replaced my Panasonic AE8000 with an Epson 5050Ube. I am thoroughly delighted with the purchase, and you might find the following of interest: 1) The Epson handles black and white imagery many times better than the Panasonic. 2) Even with a 144' diagonal CinemaScope screen, the Epson was WAY too bright out of the box. I run it on Econ mode except when viewing 3D content. 3) The difference in viewing 4K material isn't that noticeable to me, regular Blu-rays look almost as good. 4) If you decide on the Epson, you might consider the Ube version if you have an older home theater receiver. Mine only has one 4K input, but I can connect both my 4K Bluray player and my 4K Roku to the Wireless HD box, and then feed that signal to the receiver. The Epson remote lets you switch among three 4K sources using the Wireless HD. While I am sorry that Panasonic left the home theater market (the 8000 was my third Panny projector), I am very pleased with the Epson.
Rich, thanks for sharing. The one warning I'll issue about the UBe is that the wireless connection tops out at 4K//30Hz, which will communicate to Netflix and Amazon via your streaming player that your projector can't handle 4K w HDR even though it will. We covered this in our review of the 5050UBe. Unless you need the wireless connection the straight 5050 is the better choice.
I am also in the market for a new projector that fits with my upcoming Xbox series X purchase.
1: No color wheel (Rainbow sensitive) 2: 4k@120Hz acceptance (= HDMI 2.1) 3: Input lag less than 44 ms. (still a bit high, but OK)
I hope this LG HU810P can deliver these specs..
1: No color wheel (Rainbow sensitive) 2: 4k@120Hz acceptance (= HDMI 2.1) 3: Input lag less than 44 ms. (still a bit high, but OK)
I hope this LG HU810P can deliver these specs..
Price this at $2500 and you have wallet!
Back to Rich. Thanks for that input. I was watching a review on the NX7, Theo Optima 65 and Epson 6050. I compared a scene they used looking at, then compared to my Panny, and my Panny still looked great. I have seen the SDE on the 6050, I wasn't sure if it was the screen or the projector, but after watching the review, I feel it's the projector. The Panny with their screen smoothing tech is really good. Still struggling to justify the upgrade, but I like your comments.
Like the user above, would love to know if this or Samsung's new projector support HDMI 2.1 features such as 4K 120hz, level of latency and things like VRR etc
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Do you know if this uses the 0.67 DMD?
@Rob -- would using something like HDFury's Arcana/Integral be a workaround for the wireless 30hz limitation? I have the ube and it looked like I was getting 4K UHD passed over the wireless box (when watching netflix via apple 4KTV through Integral2 and Arcana into the wireless box), but I'm not sure how to validate if this is actually the case. I'm re-thinking the set-up and am trying to decide whether to go through the hassle of running a dedicated HDMI through the ceiling or just relying on the wireless box for movies/gaming.
Jason, you can still get 4K with some streaming devices/services but I believe the limitation is getting it with HDR. I recall when we tested this that Vudu, for example, would send through 4K but with SDR, while Netflix knocked it down to 1080p, but this was not via Apple TV. It's possible that a box in between the streaming service and the wireless transmitter that presents an HDMI EDID that says its 4K/60 will bypass the issue, and then it's a matter of setting the box to output a 4K/30 Hz signal with HDR into the transmitter. But it's something you'd have to test.
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Hi Rob, any idea if this supports all or some of the HDMI 2.1 features such as 120Hz at 4K and VRR and ALLM?
Not at this time, Grant.
I was wondering if you could suggest a good projector that gives a good picture at 20' from the screen. I need that distance because of the pool in between the projector and the screen.
Also replying to Lowell: I ordered a 5050ub with generous return conditions to compare to my trusty Panasonic AE4000. In the end, the 5050ub went back. Here's why:
5050ub Positives: 1) It was significantly brighter than my AE4000. I never needed to run higher than eco mode. Dynamic in eco was bright enough even in 'dimmed' daylight for sports games (ie. with friends where you wouldn't blackout the room but it's ok to close the curtains somewhat). Note: I have a 230' widescreen.
This meant the whites were more white and especially cartoons looked well saturated. In normal mode it is REALLY bright.
2) Sharpness: switching on/off the 4K enhancer provides a noticably sharper image on still images when you compare before and after. Then as a test, I put on a movie and closed my eyes and randomly pressed 4K enhancer on/off until I didn't know the settings. Repeating this several times, I couldn't consistently tell if it was on or off :)
3) Image quality in general. In the end, it's hard to compare 2 projector images side by side (at least in my home). The images were so close I reverted to taking still images with my DSLR at exactly the same settings so I could compare on my computer screen. Thing is, if you need to do that to compare, the image quality improvement is at best incremental. You would not notice it if you are just watching something. To prove my point (it was an accident), we watched F1 with friends on the 5050ub. People commented on the excellent image quality. Weeks later, we watched another race when i'd returned the 5050ub already. People still said 'yeah your projector is really good' and they never noticed it was a different one.
5050ub vs panny4000 negatives
1) the thing is HUGE. Depending on your room setup, this might or might not bother you. It did bother me
2) it is NOISY. Eco was louder than panny's eco, normal was simply unbearable, not even only during quiet movie moments. Now the 7000/8000 is according to reviews even quieter than the 4000, so you are in for a bad surprise (again, also depending on room setup)
3) No auto lens adjust for widescreen/16:9. This just works so well on the panny (and I have a widescreen)
And then, not necessarily related to this projector, but HDR/4K in general, so 1) you also need to upgrade your player and sound system if you pass the signal through (I do), so there's another > $1K. Then when whatching HDR you are not just enjoying the movie but wondering 'Is the projector in the correct setting? Is the HDR quality actually good? What does the internet recommend for best setting for this movie? Finally, there isn't that much 4K and/or HDR content (at least not that I am interested in).
So _for me_ the conclusion was that it would be quite expensive (Projector + player + sound system), 4K/HDR content is limited, and the thing was big and noisy. And, most importantly, the image quality was better, but no so much that I get more enjoyment out of watching a movie.
So the 5050 went back, and I am still in love with the trusty old panny :) I will wait for something that is quieter, smaller (laser/LED) and when 4K / HDR content is more available and on the projector side is a little more matured and less 'do I have the right setting'-ish.
just my 2 cents :) hope it helps
5050ub Positives: 1) It was significantly brighter than my AE4000. I never needed to run higher than eco mode. Dynamic in eco was bright enough even in 'dimmed' daylight for sports games (ie. with friends where you wouldn't blackout the room but it's ok to close the curtains somewhat). Note: I have a 230' widescreen.
This meant the whites were more white and especially cartoons looked well saturated. In normal mode it is REALLY bright.
2) Sharpness: switching on/off the 4K enhancer provides a noticably sharper image on still images when you compare before and after. Then as a test, I put on a movie and closed my eyes and randomly pressed 4K enhancer on/off until I didn't know the settings. Repeating this several times, I couldn't consistently tell if it was on or off :)
3) Image quality in general. In the end, it's hard to compare 2 projector images side by side (at least in my home). The images were so close I reverted to taking still images with my DSLR at exactly the same settings so I could compare on my computer screen. Thing is, if you need to do that to compare, the image quality improvement is at best incremental. You would not notice it if you are just watching something. To prove my point (it was an accident), we watched F1 with friends on the 5050ub. People commented on the excellent image quality. Weeks later, we watched another race when i'd returned the 5050ub already. People still said 'yeah your projector is really good' and they never noticed it was a different one.
5050ub vs panny4000 negatives
1) the thing is HUGE. Depending on your room setup, this might or might not bother you. It did bother me
2) it is NOISY. Eco was louder than panny's eco, normal was simply unbearable, not even only during quiet movie moments. Now the 7000/8000 is according to reviews even quieter than the 4000, so you are in for a bad surprise (again, also depending on room setup)
3) No auto lens adjust for widescreen/16:9. This just works so well on the panny (and I have a widescreen)
And then, not necessarily related to this projector, but HDR/4K in general, so 1) you also need to upgrade your player and sound system if you pass the signal through (I do), so there's another > $1K. Then when whatching HDR you are not just enjoying the movie but wondering 'Is the projector in the correct setting? Is the HDR quality actually good? What does the internet recommend for best setting for this movie? Finally, there isn't that much 4K and/or HDR content (at least not that I am interested in).
So _for me_ the conclusion was that it would be quite expensive (Projector + player + sound system), 4K/HDR content is limited, and the thing was big and noisy. And, most importantly, the image quality was better, but no so much that I get more enjoyment out of watching a movie.
So the 5050 went back, and I am still in love with the trusty old panny :) I will wait for something that is quieter, smaller (laser/LED) and when 4K / HDR content is more available and on the projector side is a little more matured and less 'do I have the right setting'-ish.
just my 2 cents :) hope it helps
Steve, visit our Find a Projector database and you can filter projectors by their throw distance capbilities, though you will need to decide what size screen you want at that distance. Or you can just call one of our affiliated projector resellers (found at the Where to Buy nav link atop our home page) and they can talk you through some options based on your requirements for ambient light viewing, screen size, throw distance.
A more general question, but one that applies here. Is the fact that the lens of this projector is offset to a side vs. being centered on the body indicative of it not being a serious home theater projector but rather a home 'entertainment' projector? I'd read a one off comment from an installer somewhere and couldn't find corroboration. Thanks.
Akash, this is nonsense. I have seen projectors at all performance levels and price points feature an off-center lens design. Example: JVC’s RS35U was the company’s top of the line projector a few years back and state of the art; I think it was a $12,000 projector at the time.
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Is this projector a pixel shifter for 4K video or does it have native full 4K panels? Not interested if it has to do pixels shifting for 4K.
Thank you for any info!
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Pixel-shifting via DLP XPR system.
Hi Rob,
I guess you hear this question quite a lot, but do you have any news on a launch date? Or at least a personal guess based on your experience. Black Friday is getting closer and I am not sure if I should get the 6050ub or wait for this one.. And I am sure I am not the only one facing this 'issue'..
I guess you hear this question quite a lot, but do you have any news on a launch date? Or at least a personal guess based on your experience. Black Friday is getting closer and I am not sure if I should get the 6050ub or wait for this one.. And I am sure I am not the only one facing this 'issue'..
No specifics on a launch date, but I would anticipate very late this year or sometime in early 2021 based on the little I know.
Any update on this projector?
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There’s been no formal announcement but I definitely expect it in January.
Reviewing this anytime soon?
When can we expect a review for the HU810PW?
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